(FOOT) L'Espagne c'est une grande nation du football ou pas ?

Le 20 avril 2022 à 20:16:08 :
l'Espagne n'existe au football que depuis les années 2000

Donc c'est une nation moyenne du football, derrière la France, qui elle-même est derrière l'Allemagne, le Brésil etc.

C’est sur avec le Réal Madrid le plus titré en league des champions, et FC Séville le plus titré en coupe de l’UEFA.
La France n’a jamais rien gagné avec une équipe de français de souche. Et seulement 1 league des champions et 1 coupe des coupe en club. Si on est petit, imagine le niveau de la France. Et en jeune on écrase la compétition, des petits espagnols qui ridiculisent vos équipes d’africains d’ 1m80. 🤙🏻

Spain back then was known for their possession based football with slight and technical midfielders. The term used before tiki taka was " la furia ". It was a style of football that involved trying to get in good wide areas and swinging in as many crosses as possible into the twin forwards. The team changed during the 3 tournaments won but there were some pilars. Araones opeted for a 4 4 2 with creative players like Iniesta and David Silva out wide rather than crosses. In 2010 WC, Del Bosque opted for 4 2 3 1, giving them high control in the midfield. This was morphing into a formation that was strikerless and wingerless 4 6 0. In 2008 euros, althought they played sometimes 4 4 2, there were instances when they played better in a 4 5 1 with a solitary forward with Torres being the lone forward and Fabregas being with Xavi in the midfield to form a 4 1 4 1. Despite attacking brillance of playes like Xavi, Iniesta, Torres and Silva, It could be argue that Marco Senna was the key to the team back then. In either formation he was the only midfielder primarly focused on the defensive tasks. That, combined with his incredible work rage, meant that he was the plateform to allow technical playmakers upfront to showcase their talents. Spain was much more lethargic in their possession. It was before Guardiola's revolution. It was more a passive position, often rotating the ball in the back until the perfect gap opened to play into the midfield. In many ways, possession was used as a defensive tool, as their counter press had not been developed yet. So a loss of possession would have been much more costly especially when playing with a single pivot.
But when going into the meidfield, Senna often looked to pass to Xavi, who was the conductor of the game and the kye to stitching the midfield and the attack together. This was also the trigger for the inverted wide playmakers, David Silva and Iniesta, to drift into the half spaces, stark contrast to the old Spain where the wingers used to hug the touchline. At this time, both fullbacks, Ramos in particular, looked to move higher on the pitch to provide width in order to stretch the opposition's back line. In the final third, Spain had many options as they could choose to slip it into the wide fullbacks who looked for the cut back into the box or the cross as they had 2 aeriel capable forwards. But Villa could also drop into the midfield potentially drawing a center back out and creating another passing lane. Or if the center back stayed deep, he could create or shoot for himself. He could also push high alongside Torres, giving the midfield more options to pass. When it came to defending, there was no rampant pressing. International sides rarely have the time to work on coordinated pressing mecanisms. So they would instead drop into a 4 5 1 mid block with Villa dropping into the midfield.

Busquets and Alonso came to replace Senna as Del Bosque opted for a double pivot. Spain used pacier wingers this time with Pedro and sometimes Villa moving on the wide left. Players like Fabregas and Silva also made massive contributions in certain matches. After their 1 0 loss against Switzerland, they had to play more cautious and less expensively. They switched to an even higher possession style, with players having much closer proximity. Their possession rose to 50% to 60%. It led Spain to score 8 goals in 7 matches. With the 3 maestro in the center of the pitch, being Busquets, Alonso and Xavi, Spain retained possession pretty easily. But the double pivots were not that physically gifted so 2 mens were needed to cover the width of the pitch. The double pivot was also a defensive precaution which allowed them to concede only 2 goals during the entire tournament. We often saw Iniesta start on the right. Naturally he drifted more inside to have the ball and create. It allowed Ramos to make his marauding runs when he overlapped. In the left as Villa attacked the box alongside Torres, Spain had good numbers in central zones, but it left a vacuum on the left as the Spanish left back Capdevila, was aging and less impressive than Ramos going forward. So as the tournament went, Spain shifted to a 1 men frontline It allowed the emerging Pedro out wide,a s he was much happier hugging the touchline. It stretched the opposition's back line a lot more. Defensivly Spain pressed more during this tournament with shades of Barcelona's system coming throught. However it was much less much less manic and more concerned about closing off passing lanes rather than creating turnovers high up.
In euro 2012 it was a strikerless system. Alba easily provided the width as a left back but Arebeola on the right was less impressive and more defensive minded. Instead of making quick switches like most teams would do, they used a thir man runner and pinpoint passing to get though on goal which they managed on several occasions.